We all know about the following FOX brevity codes:
FOX-1: Semi-active radar-guided missile
FOX-2: Infrared-guided missile
FOX-3: Active radar-guided missile
Even though the Genie is air-launched, it is a non-guided missile carrying a nuclear warhead, and thereby does not fit into these typical FOX codes. My guess would be that it has it's own special brevity code, even outside FOX. Might this be correct?
I vividly recall the stories from Gums about simulating the launch of a Genie, hence why I wondered about this very specific detail.
Launching an AIR-2 Genie, what would be the brevity code?
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Re: Launching an AIR-2 Genie, what would be the brevity code
I've read that Fox4 is unguided, but it might get a unique code like AG munitions. Flashlight? Lol
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Re: Launching an AIR-2 Genie, what would be the brevity code
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Having had two Genies ejected from my VooDoo bay, no "fox" call standards in 1966/67. Back then, our clall after launch was "MA" or "MI", the latter was missed intercept and not related to weapon employment.
I cannot recall the briefed verbiage for my launches.
Do not recall when the launch codes were adopted, but in 1972, I heard "shotgun" from the Weasels when they had fired a big missile.
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Having had two Genies ejected from my VooDoo bay, no "fox" call standards in 1966/67. Back then, our clall after launch was "MA" or "MI", the latter was missed intercept and not related to weapon employment.
I cannot recall the briefed verbiage for my launches.
Do not recall when the launch codes were adopted, but in 1972, I heard "shotgun" from the Weasels when they had fired a big missile.
Gums sends...
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Re: Launching an AIR-2 Genie, what would be the brevity code
Thank you for the answers!
'Shotgun' makes a lot of sense in that regards.
I also read that one of the Genie's project codes was 'Ding-Dong', which by itself would make quite a sensible brevity code.
'Shotgun' makes a lot of sense in that regards.
I also read that one of the Genie's project codes was 'Ding-Dong', which by itself would make quite a sensible brevity code.
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Salute!
Back in the day, Botsing, we had neat brevity codes for air employment stuff and rules of engagement. Some effort, and you might find them.
The NORAD messages seemed to be oriented to American Indian culture. During a simulated attack we would get messages like"Hiawatha arrow", which I think meant nukes were released, then "Short look, large charge" which was basically orders to get as many interceptors as possible up on CAP orbits.
Our launch for both the IR missiles and the GENIE was "MA". If we saw the end game we could call, "splash". I always liked "pigeons", "dolly sweet", "Oranges", "tied", "Judy", "famished", etc. Many codes evolved in the 'nam era, and some went all the way to the Top Gun era in the movies - "Fox 2", "winchester", "bingo", et al.
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Back in the day, Botsing, we had neat brevity codes for air employment stuff and rules of engagement. Some effort, and you might find them.
The NORAD messages seemed to be oriented to American Indian culture. During a simulated attack we would get messages like"Hiawatha arrow", which I think meant nukes were released, then "Short look, large charge" which was basically orders to get as many interceptors as possible up on CAP orbits.
Our launch for both the IR missiles and the GENIE was "MA". If we saw the end game we could call, "splash". I always liked "pigeons", "dolly sweet", "Oranges", "tied", "Judy", "famished", etc. Many codes evolved in the 'nam era, and some went all the way to the Top Gun era in the movies - "Fox 2", "winchester", "bingo", et al.
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Re: Launching an AIR-2 Genie, what would be the brevity code
You can look up some of the terms in the F-16.net glossary for Operational Brevity words, BFM terminology, and Military Aviation AcronymsGums wrote:I always liked "pigeons", "dolly sweet", "Oranges", "tied", "Judy", "famished", etc. Many codes evolved in the 'nam era, and some went all the way to the Top Gun era in the movies - "Fox 2", "winchester", "bingo", et al.
Judy > https://www.f-16.net/glossary-J.html
Pigeons > https://www.f-16.net/glossary-P.html
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