F-35 for DCS world

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F-35 for DCS world

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I thought some of you guys might be happy about this.

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Define "happy". Giving a module a tiny RCS is trivial, but DCS has no support for the level of ECM-ECCM that the F-35 has by simply existing. There is not even anything in the Sim to challenge it. Red-For has been stuck with 90s are Flankers for a LONG time and nothing full fidelity even. In terms of flight performance, having it fly like the F/A-18C Lot 20 with the paddle pulled is going to be close enough.
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I'm definitely (and extremely) happy with the F-35 in DCS! :D
Thanks for sharing the video, viperzerof-2 :thumb:

Yes, I'm sure there will be things that won't be fully modeled with the DCS F-35 (probably like the ECM-ECCM mentioned by Spurts) but this would basically be the only module that would make me return to DCS!
Regarding with the "there is not even anything in the Sim to challenge it" (also mentioned by Spurts) because most "Red" aircraft modeled are 1990's Soviet fighter aircraft, well guess what? Today, there's nothing "Red sided" that can challenge the F-35 either. :wink:
Moreover, I'm "sure" (or strongly believe) that when or once the F-35 is implemented in DCS that we will see new opposing/Red AI aircraft like the Su-35, Su-57, J-20 or J-35 (and some will be flyable at a later stage) and knowing the record of ED, they will model such aircraft in a way that they will be (unrealistically) closer in terms of capabilities compared to the F-35 (similarly like Soviet-era Mig-29's and Su-27's can be "too close" capability wise to the F/A-18C and are able to rather easily beat it), so I think this won't be a problem.

Besides being my favorite aircraft, the F-35 in DCS has for me another positive and plus point:
- Currently, I don't have much time or that will to deeply learn how to play with full or close to full fidelity aircraft. For example, the new F-15C in Falcon BMS is awesome (the best F-15C so far modeled in a sim, bar none) but learning it (or re-learning the F-16 also in BMS) takes too much time (as it should!) and so, I feel like having the F-35 then a player like me can have a full capable aircraft which is easy to learn how to fly and fight enemies in the shortest amount of time.

And if this F-35 is made by or in collaboration with Indiafoxtecho then this will be promising indeed since their F-35 for FS2020 is very good indeed (taking into account the limitations of FS2020)!
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Funny thing about the red side. For the last year and a half I was trying to get some J-10A documentation held by the US government thinking we could get a modernish red jet. Oh well guess that’s pissing in the ocean now.


I will say I would have loved if it was an F-35B, that niche the harrier fills is so good.


Oh also MSIP II F-15C was announced which is also awesome
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viperzerof-2 wrote: I will say I would have loved if it was an F-35B, that niche the harrier fills is so good.
Yes, the F-35B would be great indeed. And the greatest thing is that IMO, whoever models a F-35B will be able to model a F-35A as well with quite little effort.

viperzerof-2 wrote: Oh also MSIP II F-15C was announced which is also awesome
Try the latest Falcon BMS! It has a fully modeled (but still work in progress) with detailed and proper F-15C sensors and avionics (including the APG-63 radar, Link-16, etc...), full and detailed ramp and cold start procedure, etc...
And you can play it with in the awesome dynamic campaign environments of Falcon BMS.
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I really do have to get back into bms
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:mrgreen: I hope warthunder does the same thing, playing it would be fun
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Here's more information about the F-35 for DCS:
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/367621-dc ... icial-faq/

The F-35 variant modeled will be the F-35A. The developer may also offer the F-35B Vertical Takeoff and Landing (VTOL) and F-35C aircraft carrier catapult versions later on but this has yet to be determined.

The link/site above also answers questions such as:
- How will you simulate it given the lack of reference documents?
- Would this not unbalance DCS?
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I honestly think they have a professional contract of some kind. They said in the thread they are targeting F-16 F-18 level sim compared to their A-10C.
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I suspect it’s based on one of these

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viperzerof-2 wrote:I honestly think they have a professional contract of some kind. They said in the thread they are targeting F-16 F-18 level sim compared to their A-10C.
I would say and agree that's quite possible! I can easily imagine that a DCS F-35 module on a "bunch" of (much cheaper) PC desktops would complement nicely the existing and advanced (and far more expensive) simulators which are part of the F-35 Training System.

Actually, in the past something like this resulted in the DCS A-10C which came from a professional contract for the US ANG to create a PC desktop module/simulator for the A-10C.
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